Sector A1-0's Power Tier Debate!

Sorry to be a pest, but that flag’s a couple months out of date

Colonus Flag (IC it was always this)

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sure thing

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SDR is Regional at best

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Rehy has a super massive military, but given we haven’t been involved in any conflicts and only have contact to Galaxiel and Akropii, I’d say where a Middle Power.
Or maybe regional.

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My initial take on it as of 0 ABT

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You should move Ferristia and Colestia up to Great Powers for tech advancement

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Please elaborate

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The Ferristians are a very technologically focused society, that started off already advanced due to having access to precursor Venterran Tech. Also, their first contacts were Galactya, who then connected them with Calerost and the DCI. So Ferristia having very advanced tech wouldn’t be unfeasible

There’s also the fact that Robo wants Ferristia to be advanced lol, so that probably helps ig

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As for Colestia, they are much older than the DCI (18k years old) but have preferred to remain only in a couple of systems instead of spreading out, and have only recently started to expand

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I can see the case for the Colestians, yes. Taking thier immediate neighbourhood into account it also stands true.

Ferristia however I’m not sure I agree. Maybe a Regional Power, but given their vicinity to Galactya, the Galactyan Empire would instead have more influence than Ferristia. At least in the near vicinity which I think Ferristia is all it has given it has barely any other influence around the whole Sector. So I think my assesment of thwm as a Middle Power is fair.

Admittedly the TSE could be moved to Great Power in the military category and the Venterran to Super Power imo. Also, I was on the fence to admit the DCI as a hyperpower in industrials due to their many well-developed forgeworlds.

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Galactya is more industrially developed than the DCI so I don’t think that would work out well

Like, it has many dyson swarms and large arrays of industrial megastructures that get their energy and materials directly from stars, so it’s easy to see why they would outweigh the DCI’s forgeworlds

Also, I don’t think any player nation should be in the Hyperpower category for obvious reasons. Especially considering the fact that, in this case, there are now nations are on the same level as the DCI

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Why is COE on there as of 0 ABT?

They aren’t founded 'til 20 ABT

Also, I think SDR should be placed as a regional power for tech advancement,

But overall its an accurate representation of the SDR as of 0 ABT

military (we just spent two years kicking our own asses in), culturally (we hate them xenos), economic (We barely trade with anybody), Industrial (Again, War), Diplomatic (SDR just regained their independence)

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The COE isn’t actually in the table

I wrongly included it in the flag list lol

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For calerost I’d say pretty accurate for the time (except I’d say it’s militarily a great power), though after 2 ABT calerost will have a visible power bump. When it comes to diplomatic it will definitely be bumped to at least great power because of the covenant of fire, economic will kind of stay the same calerost does relatively very little trade outside of the Tiyanki territories as calerost aims to be as self sufficient and economically secure as possible. I also expect a bump in industry because of the revitalization of the military industrial complex (untill 0 BBT calerost was not really making a lot of ships, just keeping it’s fleet modern, but after 0BBT calerost started seriously working on it’s fleet to get it to a cutting edge level, as well as introducing new ship classes better suited for the new situation. Basically the military industrial complex hasn’t been this active since the miraline war). How cultural influence will change is yet to be seen.

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Here is an Emeraldian Take on the states they know about(it’s also my take)

This is as of 0 ABT

(Yes, I’m a little biased with the UoE, but it’s meant to be a Regional Power in nearly all aspects, except militarily, which is decent, but they lack the experience of Stoinia, and is technologically on par with the Stoinians, so for Mav to place them in middle power for those two doesn’t really make any sense. And it isn’t industrially backwards Mav! Now, Economically, I can see the reasoning there. It may be a young nation, but its one that has had a head start in tech, and has thousands upon thousands of military documents of the Starhawk Pact, and probably some from the old Pacifica Allies(Stoinia, Sedunn, and Krauanagaz). Industry Wise, c’mon, its Emerald, it’s going to have really motivated industry during a war, and is still going to be good before and after one. It just needs time to develop both its Economy and Diplomacy(and get actual war experience))

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sees calerost placed as great power everywhere, automatically approves

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From what I’ve been told the UoE still has vast new territories which are yet to be developed. While its tech may be on par, the sheer industrial size of say nations like Galactya are leagues ahead. In my eyes, grabbing that amount of stars in 100 years isn’t enough to have fully developed the industrial complex on the same level as star nations which are thousands of years old. So hence why I scored UoE low industrial. Industrial I interpreted not on a technological level, but more so in terms of economy of scale. It wouldn’t be entirely feasible to claim UoE would have the same level of development as star nations popping dyson swarms to fuel their megaprojects.

As for military, I took neighbours into consideration for those rankings and well the UoE borders the DCI which are titans. So yeah, there might be a bias there as well.

Technology could indeed be higher as at the time I didn’t have a clear picture of the tech and whether other star nations would be interested in it. Or indeed compare to immediate neighbours. Whether it would be on the same level as the SSK is up for revision since its increased lifespan which likely will also result in some superior technologies in comparison of the two.

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Enver is severly underpowered. They should be an industrial Great Power or maybe even a Superpower, militaey Great Power (Superpower by around 4/5 ABT) and a technological Great Power (again Superpower by around 4/5 ABT.). And a Cultural Small Power. I didn’t have a lot of opportunities to show their true power IC, but I talked about it a lot on discord and their power matches that of Galactya and DCI.

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I was doing a check in anyway, so might as well weigh in on this for Colonus at least.

So far, I agree with @Maverick’s proposed placements the most. While @KingTEM is close, I feel that some things are severely downplayed.

So, as far as 0 ABT goes, my rankings for The Colonus Pact would be:

Cultural: Really, either regional or middle would work, no strong opinions here.
Diplomatic: Colonus has a history of limited diplomatic relations, but by this point, and especially by this point, there’s a lot more going on in that regard, and I’d say middle is justified.
Economic: That’s a hard small, Colonus doesn’t even have an economy.
Industrial: That’s going to be a hard regional, Colonus and industrial might go hand in hand.
Military: Definitely a small or medium, but probably a small. I’ve kind of been using that as one of the focal points for Scytheros’s rule.
Technological: I’d say at least a middle is justified. While they slowed down with the military, technology continued to improve. The colonus pact has created some pretty good pieces of technology, such as cloaking devices, an artificial hive mind, strong emps (and therefore more emp hardening), and of course Hexadecimal.

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I don’t agree with Trianar’s military placement- Trianar is meant to have one of the strongest militaries in the Sector that’s been honed after its centuries of near-constant war, and refined throughout time. Trianar as a state always acts as if it is at warring which means that it is always refining its tactics and technology during peacetime. Trianar also isn’t burdened by military tradition; in Trianar, the military is extremely pragmatic and will not hesitate to change things up on the drop of the dime if they’ll work better.

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