Amendment to the Times Act

I don’t see why we shouldn’t require this on discord as well.

Also, as an example, to create a timestamp in discord you put a unix epoch timestamp inside <t: > like this: <t:1670355000>

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For the technologically illiterate among us, could you explain what this is and how one is created?

This is a standardized format that computers use to keep time that ignores all time zones and the like. Technically, it’s the number of seconds since the “unix epoch,” which is January 1, 1970, at 00:00:00 UTC. It’s what Discord uses to display times in each person’s timezone.

In a practical sense, there are a number of tools you can use to generate these. I think Discord might have one themselves these days (?) but I usually use https://sesh.fyi/timestamp/.

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This amendment seems sensible. Full support from me.

I do think it would be a good idea to pin one of these tools somewhere on Discord.

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This or a coco/other bot tool to generate them in Discord itself.

I believe on desktop, typing @time will also allow you to type in a date/time to create a timestamp rather than needing a unix timestamp.

This seems like a power-user feature that at worst requires understanding what a “Unix epoch timestamp” is and at best requires an outside tool.

Do we really need to legally require this?

Given that this covers only legal deadlines, I think we should be legally requiring it. For the average TSPer it’s going to be helpful, and the number of people publishing legal deadlines is low enough that I don’t have any concerns about them being unable to learn or be taught the knowledge needed to do this. I’d be happy to write out an explanation for the Addendum too for those who would need it.

Before anything, at my knowledge, (2) should be (1b) and (1) as (1a). Also if we have a procedure we should have a timezone, because TSP is international and the fact that in the same office no one is in the same timezone could lead to problematic issue on administrative things.

So I would vote yes if it’s contain a timezone preferably UTC+0.

I recall a time when we simply just posted Eastern (American) Time, Sydney Time, and Greenwich (London) time…

As a central (American) time user, I know to subtract an hour when a specific Eastern time is given… just as Europeans/Africans know to add or subtract an hour and as many Asian nations know to do the math to Sydney or Greenwich time.

I am not strictly against it (and would vote for it), but why are we continuing to make things more complex?

How is adding three different timezones to each post less complex than using a built-in Discord date feature that shows the local timezone for everyone?
It’s literally just @time now.

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It’s not. I would argue that people who think it is more complex do not actually understand what it is, how it works or that it doesn’t require an effort. They can’t be blamed for that, take me for an example, I am not the brightest pea in the pod myself, I know what I know of computer science and coding through my brother who is a qualified computer scientist and working in computers in his job, ordinarily, on my own, I haven’t a clue.

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Unformal hours, some procedure are written like this : you should do this at Noon, but their is 26 timezones in the world so it could be the author POV, or my POV. Putting an official timezones which is UTC+0, would definitely finish the problem.