Proposing this change as we do not have the brainpower to enforce separate deputies. A Chief Justice can be a Deputy Minister, and the Delegate can be a Deputy Chair.
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Support for this eminently sensible amendment.
I wholeheartedly support this amendment.
Iād support this
Generally support the sentiment. However, Iād like to point out an edge case, which is if a Deputy Chair ascends to Chair in the case of a vacancy:
Now letās take a look at the relevant portions of the Charter regarding restrictions on holding more than one office:
Suppose the Chair resigns, and the senior-most Deputy Chair is also a Cabinet minister. Since Section 4 doesnāt explicitly cover ascending to an office in case of a vacancy, there is ambiguity whether this person would 1) ascend to Chair and resign as Cabinet minister, or 2) be considered not āavailableā for the purposes of Article 2, Section 4 of the Legislative Procedure Act.
I propose we clarify this with the following amendment to the Legislative Procedure Act, which I believe produces the least amount of disruption:
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Nice catch! Iām in favor of this.
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I like it but Iād like to suggest this alternative wording:
In the event that the Chair of the Assembly is vacant, the senior-most Deputy Chair of the Assembly by order of appointment who does not already hold an Office of the Coalition shall become Chair of the Assembly.
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Alright so, to present this as a single omnibus for voting purposes.
Amendment to the Charter
Amendment to the Legislative Procedure Act
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Everyone here knows my views on Separation of Powers but I am in favor of this considering Deputy Ministers as an example I donāt particularly have an issue with someone having another job concurrently at the same time as that Dep Ministership.
Uh, forgive me if this is a stupid question, but do we have like a deputy delegate or smth? Like someone will become delegate if the current Delegate has to leave for some sudden reason?
In the event the Delegate resigns from the WA, CTEs, or otherwise loses the position of delegacy, the Coral Guard will take over until a new delegate can be elected and put into the position.
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Teeeeeechnically itās not necessarily a member of the CG, just whoever the CRS & PM & Del choose.
Relevant portion of the Charter
Of course in practice, it will be a member of the CG.
If there is more than half the term left, a special election will then be held. Otherwise, we will wait until the next regularly scheduled election.
Relevant portion of the Elections Act
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Yeah, no, I donāt think itās fair to say that we donāt have the brainpower, if the office holder chooses their Deputy, they have chosen someone to assist them in the running of their office and I donāt see why we would remove that.
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The main issue here is most deputies are holding another office which just causes needlesss clog.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by needless clog?
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Surely thatās not a legislative fault, itās the fault of the office holder who has not asked that question, are you holding another office? Or who hasnāt checked if they are, āAh, OK, all good, nevermind,ā and saunter off to find someone else, I think thatās just common sense or lack thereof and laziness on the part of the office holder.
Sensible amendment.
I motion this to a vote.
Second