Then what do you define as spam? Any posts that can be made and digested that quickly on a regular basis match my personal definition of “spam” in the context of a forum-post formatted platform. This thread is honestly pushing it right now.
Honestly, you need a chat room, not the RMB.
If I’m recalling correctly, the NPO and TWP have had appointed moderators for years and those two have easily the most moderated and peaceful RMBs in the feeders. While yes, TWP is extra over-vigilant with their moderation (that being somewhat their shtick), a similar process could certainly occur if we had a few appointed moderators willing to give their time to make sure the RMB doesn’t become a messy hellhole. As someone who has tried to communicate on our RMB before, it is a mess and becomes very confusing and difficult to keep up with very quickly. There’s spam, seventeen different conversations and 50 people talking about how cool their guns are and it does not create a peaceful and open environment. Having been in TWP in the past, it is shocking the difference between the two
Thanks. So I notice that in describing your ideal RMB, the Local Council isn’t mentioned at all. You want active posting and spam moderation. Creating make-believe governing bodies and organizing elections wasn’t mentioned at all. So is it reasonable to say that the Local Council – a make-believe body we invented to be a roleplayed city council on the RMB – is really not relevant to creating a good RMB, as you’ve described it?
Both of you seem to be under the impression that RMB moderators would be people who aren’t part of the RMB. These far-off uninvolved strangers who suddenly get to suppress and ban people under the guise of “moderation.” That’s not actually true. RMB moderators would come from the RMB itself, as we want people who are already active there doing the moderating. It wouldn’t be a case of some foreign power trampling over the RMB. Moderators would be home-grown, one of “your people” so to speak.
It is the best and most direct way of doing things.If people do not approve of the job being done,the people in charge are elected out.
The people you’ve currently elected are, by your own description, not doing the job well. When was the last time you believed the RMB was being moderated well?
If they aren’t doing a good job, you have to wait for the next election to vote them out and replace them. That could take a long time.
If we have the appointment of mods, then we can remove AND replace them within minutes/hours.
Democracy is slow but that is a positive.If the process is slow,there is more protection from impulsive decisions.
If they’re just enforcing the rules, maybe with a little leeway since no one is perfect after all, I’m not sure why we’d encourage such overturn. Having actually done this, it can get tiring waiting for the election so you can step down.
Incorrect and exceptionally untrue in moderation situations. If somebody is spamming slurs on the RMB, would you rather it be a slow bureaucratic process to agree to ban them or just have a mod instaban them? Moderation is a job that requires quickness to be effective
I would support small reforms but nothing like this.We should reform the institution not end it.
We have suppresion as a temporary measure until the NS Mods act.We can’t have unelected people with that amount of power.
I would like to know what people would be considered for the position, as in my head, at least someone who is trusted, familiar and popular within the RMB, I would consider people like that to be such as Drystar, who has long been an LC of the RMB, Evinea, Lile Ulie Islands, Trivalve, Ontario Dominion(CD), CurlyHoward, all people of whom the RMB would most likely trust, and be happy with, in the position of moderation of the message board, would any of those people come to your mind when you think of the Moderation team?
Respectfully, then did you even read the first half of this thread?
The original debaters of this thread had a very productive debate.
Among the reforms we discussed was the creation of appointed mods, while retaining the “LC” as an advisory body to the Minister of Culture. The proposed LC would assist the MoC with events on the RMB and integrate the RMB users into the forums.
That is not ending the institution; that is reforming it.
You already do! The CRS is appointed by the PM and Delegate and confirmed by the Assembly. Our moderation team is chosen by the Admins, who are confirmed by the Assembly!
Still, to many it would seem as if we are ending an institution, then creating another to fill it’s place.
So you’d rather have a bunch of suppressed (aka still entirely visible with the click of a button) offensive posts than one or two and a bottom feeder banned from the region? In what world would we need the NS mods to get a gross individual out of the region?
I think this is important to note. Because at the end of the day, we can all agree that the LC needs reform.
It’s entirely possible, but promising certain roles would go to certain people during this debate would be corruption. Like I said before, RMB moderators would be chosen among people who are active on the RMB and trustworthy.
Trustworthiness is a key component. Since I helped create the body, I’ve seen LCs that were petty tyrants, suppressing posts arbitrarily, getting in fights with people, etc. Elected LCs have not been universally trustworthy, with good judgement and the right kind of head on their shoulders to moderate. On the flip side, our existing moderation team is held to much higher standards. RMB moderators, as opposed to elected LCs who also have moderation powers, would be held to those same standards. So it’s a better system to use, one that’s been proven on Discord and these forums.
Then the many people you reference should probably be reading the debate for themselves instead of being told what’s going on and going along with it.
Whoever is saying that is trying to elicit emotion to get things to go their way.
If they are offensive,don’t click the button.