Calling for a Great Council

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The Assembly,

Seeing that Citcomm had make multiple errors on the past few months,

Worrying about the inactivity of the Assembly that could show the lose of interest in The South-Pacific legislation,

Recognizing that the Charter is getting old and need to be rewritten or being amend,

Believing that any modification the Charter should be in accordance of the Coalition Population even if they aren’t citizen.

Hereby :

(1) Activate Article XIV of the South-Pacific Charter on the Great Council

(2) Designate the Chair of the Great Council as the actual Chair of the Assembly (KrisKringle)

(2a) The first mission of the Great Council will be elect an Deputy Chair.

(3) The Chair of the Great Council, will be charged with : maintaining decorum, compiling proposal, recognizing motion and recording votes.

(3a) The Deputy Chair will be charged to notify the South-Pacific population by telegram of any decision of the Great Council, he will also help The Chair in his tasks.

(3b) The election of the Deputy Chair will need a simple majority (over 50%)

(4) If the Deputy Chair or The Chair is inactive for most than 1 week, they will lose their position in the Great Council.

(4a) The Great Assembly will held an election that will elect a new Chair and/or Deputy Chair. The election is under (3b).

(5) The members of the Great Council shall be in proportionality of members on the forum.

(5a) Every non-legisator have the right to join the Great Council.

(5b) Non citizen can join the Great Council.

(5c) People that are not in The South-Pacific can’t join the Great Council

(5d) the maximum of people in Great Council is 100 voters. This will permit a better calculation of proportionality.

(5e) If their is more people than seat assigned to their group, an election will be held.

(6) The Great Council can amend this resolution.

(7) The calendar of The Great Assembly :

(7a) In the week after this resolution, the Prime Minister will count the number of person that have a role and make a simple proportionality calculation.

(7b) After the number of seat assigned to each group, the Chair of The Great Council will open the application to join The Great Council.

(7c) after the quorum of seat is reached, their will be a phase of 1 week of discussion on improvement that can be made.

(7d) After the week of discussion is ended, the Great Council can start to voting. The first motion will be about an election of the Deputy Chair.

(7e) After 4 weeks, the Great Council can pass omnibus or adjourn sine die.

(8) This resolution shall supersede the resolution entitled " Great Council Convening Resolution of 2022".

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Please tell if you have suggestion !

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I’m not necessarily opposed to convening another Great Council, but I don’t see a pressing need for one at this time. The path to a more active Assembly is, quite simply, to propose new legislation or amendments to existing laws, or, as we’ve seen recently, to hold our other branches of government accountable. A Great Council is not required to achieve these ends.

@Hamborn, I would ask what aspects of our constitutional structure and laws you believe require such fundamental change that they cannot be addressed through the ordinary legislative process.

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I agree with the Delegate. It’s not as if the Assembly has been particularly busy lately, at least in terms of legislation; we have ample time to take up new legislative projects. A wholesale overhaul of our institutions does not strike me as necessary.

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I think about that the Charter is old and need to being rewriten or being amend. Moreover, we need to have the voice of citizens and non-citizen to see where and how we can ameliorate the legislation.

Because I am thinking that we can make the legislation more efficient.

Finally, I know that Citizen/ non-citizen have idea to make our Region better than nowaday.

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I mean, while I agree with the Delegate, any citizen can become a legislator and propose amendments to the charter and laws.

Sorry, but no. If non-citizens want to contribute they should become a citizen if they want a voice in a great council.

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Could you clarify what exactly do you think needs rewriting or amending? I don’t necessarily mean specific sections but more generally what do you have in mind when you say the above?

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you’re right, but if Citcomm don’t make us wait 1 month to become a citizen it would be cool for non-citizen

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I was thinking about whipe out the old and rewrite a new one that will be voted by the whole region (proportionality) or amend. I also think that some constitutional stuff need to be change and/or remove.

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What constitutional stuff?

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Brought back, Local Council

And add local governement

And more…

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You don’t need a Grand Council to do this. Just draft an amendment that reintroduces the LC if you think it is necessary.

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Not that only ! I calling a Great Council for other things that citizen / non-citizen are thinking to improve TSP legislation. General Council will serve to found problems of legislation and fix it.

I was also thinking about a Local Government.

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You need to have a clear idea of your goals though. If you’re calling a Great Council just because you want a “we need a new constitution” free for all then that’s a non-starter. What exactly are the things we need to do that cannot be otherwise done via the regular legislative process?

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I’m thinking that modifying sensitive law especially Charter should pass with the Great Council. I have also some idea for it but I’m also thinking that citizens / non-citizens can have their idea and share it in the Great Council. This a form of statement if the last Great Council improved or not TSP.

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Slop.

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Oh no. Oh hell no. I was almost tempted to go over the whole proposal, but it doesn’t really even deserve that. Let’s go over the preamble with a fine tooth comb, illustrative enough.

While I surely have been frustrated with the CitComm situation. The appropriate avenue to CitComm reform is at most a recall and amendment of the Citizenship Act. A Great Council is not the correct order of magnitude for this issue.

I am curious how any sweeping structural change to the Charter would address this. I could do with a more active Assembly. There are certainly executive actions (advertising, promoting discussion, etc) that would do this. There are individual actions (making drafting to create those conversations). But I am really struggling to think of ways that a new Charter would create a more healthy assembly, unless the argument you’re making is that having to rewrite everything is activity in and of itself.

Look, CitComm has its issues, but citizenship is rather freely given to anyone that is here in good faith and not a security risk. Opening up a Great Council to any number of puppets, raiders and other bad actors willing to press a button to join the region is the single easiest way I can think of to surrender the Coalition. Absolutely not.

There are so, so many questions resulting from the rest of this, including:

  • Why is it so obsessed with a Deputy Chair?
  • Why is the council immediately tasked with electing a new Chair, but also a Deputy Chair, but also appoints the current Chair?
  • I repeat: NON-CITIZENS JOINING THE COUNCIL IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
  • Why do we need to specify a participant cap? We can do math.
  • There’s so many things that ought to be “may” that here are “will”. See (4) and (2a).
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Then I’ll rewrite the whole proposal when I can.

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I really don’t like this idea, I don’t see any need for it.

Do we have a problem right now? Maybe. So why doesn’t the Assembly take care of this? Our Constitution isn’t the problem, and this is a problem that can entirely be solved where it should be: in the Assembly.

I do not see the “Charter is getting old” as a problem, and if you want to change something about it, then propose it.

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Even if you rewrote this, I think the core problem stays the same.

CitComm issues, Assembly inactivity, and Charter changes are all separate problems, none of which require creating a new body to deal with.