[2535.AB] Amendments to the Elections Act (Campaign and Voting Periods)

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It would also depend on how many extra votes the poll would actually get in those 2 days. Does anyone know the statistics on that?

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12 hours, 1 day, 2-7 days (I think there is a 6 and 18 hour option, but that is frankly too short for ANY poll).

That being said; having been an avid tracker of voting in-game for the past four elections, I can certainly attest that voting is pretty even over the full six days.

Iā€™d say its in the realm of: 15% day 1, 20% day 2, 25% day 3, 15% day 4, 10% day 5, and 15% day 6.

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Also, I am totally not wanting to rehash term limits againā€¦ but I canā€™t help but reading it like you are only out of office for one term before being eligible again? Is that how anyone else reads it? I could have sworn the debate was to be in for the max two terms then be out for at least two more termsā€¦

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That would be my reading as well. We have Russian style term limits. :squinting_face_with_tongue:

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Honestly, off the top of my head, thatā€™s not my recollection of the debate?

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It should be 3 or 4 days ngl

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Hi Pronoun! Sorry about that comment I made a while backā€¦ and sorry for not apologizing in time.

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For gameside polls they can run for 6hrs, 12hrs, or from 1 to 14 days, but (with the exception of the 6hr and 12hr options) must be a whole number of days, so you could have 5 or 6, but not 5 and a half.

I think the length of the gameside delegate election should stay untouched. 6 days is a while, but the goal is to allow all nations within the region to be able to see it and vote. Shortening the vote only serves to undermine its purpose of giving the gameside a say in who becomes delegate.

Thereā€™s no 18 hour option, and polls can run for up to 14 days.

14 days is the max

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Iā€™m content with 6 days for the second round. The crowd that votes there is a little different from the crowd here, in that weā€™re all active and engaged daily and usually vote in the first day or two. Not so for <NS.net>.

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That domains up for sale.

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I think they mean NS as in NationStates.net :stuck_out_tongue:

No worries, all is forgiven :slight_smile:

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Thanks lol. Those comments I made were unwarranted

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I do believe what Henn is saying is correct. A lot of users here are very active so we see the need for 6 days as a bit much. For the gameside WA users who arenā€™t involved in the community I can see the need for 6 days.

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If this rough breakdown is correct and up to a quarter of second-round voting is indeed happening in the last two days, that seems like evidence enough that those days should be preserved.

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Then it is pretty much essential that those two days are included. For less active nations/nations that are not really part of the community

I think with voting ending on the 29th that would give people with longer work hours (if they donā€™t just vote during a break lol) more time to vote with thought. It would also be better because rather than ending it on a Saturday where more people have work off, if that makes sense

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I thought it was whoever had served as Delegate for over 2 term was ineligible to run ever again?

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I donā€™t know whatā€™s Russian about it. In Ireland, our President can sit for two full terms and one full term is 7 years.

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I think Erstavik is referring to the term limits only applying to consecutive terms, like in the case in Russia of Putin running for President again in 2012 after having been barred from running due to term limits in 2008.

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No, the intent behind the law (and my reading of it too, but if weā€™re discussing changes then we can clarify the language) is that you can serve 2 consecutive terms as Delegate (4 terms for PM) at most, and then take a break for a term. Nothing prohibits more than 2 in lifetime. Idea being that those terms add up to a year in office, and serving that straight is good enough and itā€™s worth getting someone new in the spot at that point.

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In addition to this, we also have to consider burnout of the officeholder. They may be enjoying their office, they may be in a stride with it and know their way around the office but they also need to know when their own free time and life no longer permits them to meet the demands of the office to which they have been elected. Itā€™s not just about letting new people in and having a go but also protecting the wellbeing of the officeholder.