Could just put up two competing amendments and let us vote on which definition we prefer
A citizen has full rights. A resident does not.
To clarify what Kris is saying:
All residents of TSP are citizens currently. And under the proposed changes they would seemingly be âdemotedâ even though they are not in actuality. Itâs about the perception of losing a more inclusive term.
At the last GC we debated the same wording and people get hung up over losing âtheir rightsâ v âbeing a citizen but not being able to voteâ thatâs why the term âlegislatorâ was introduced.
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I think using the term Citizen (for all TSP nations -acting in good faith), Registered Voter (For citizens who vote in elections, etc.), and Legislator (for assembly activities) would suffice.
This is also an issue weâve run up against several times before, with people who donât use the forums or skype/IRC/Discord/etc being offended by the idea that despite having been in TSP and involved in the region in other ways for years they arenât citizens. The citizen/legislator distinction avoided that and any needless hurt feelings/unpleasantness.
I feel described
And are we to have a committee to decide if someone who resides in the region is acting in good faith?
We have thousands of nations, it would be a logistical nightmare to decide who is acting in good faith and who is not.
No. That has never been on the table.
Frankly, yes.
A resident has the rights and freedoms afforded to them by the Charter, but is not able to vote. Citizenshipâs primary defining characteristic that sets it apart from residency is the right to vote, as well as run, in our elections. The association of citizenship with voting is why almost every other GCR in the game does not automatically grant the title of Citizen to those with a nation in their region.
I donât particularly care about what other regions do. I care more about what we do here, and making the implication that one isnât a citizen sounds wrong.
The Court actually addressed this several years ago: Members of the Coalition
Everyone is considered to be acting in good faith, until such time as they prove to the contrary.
The key thing here is that we either donât use the term citizenship anywhere - thatâs why weâve been using âMembersâ - or we apply it in the broadest possible sense so that no one feels excluded.
I have no qualms with excluding the term âcitizenâ to those who can vote in elections. Thatâs why Iâve defined it as such here.
I intend to move this to vote in two days, to coincide with the other Charter amendment.
Honestly, do we need a title for Citizens/Voters at all? Like, go call them whatever you want â citizens, voters, electors. In terms of legislation, why not just regulate eligibility directly?
I think the concern over titles reflects our attachment to our current system, where members can apply for a status that is then proactively verified and revoked by a commission. Iâm not sure that way of framing the system is beneficial; I mean, whoâd want to get their right to vote revoked? Weâre creating an incentive for people who arenât meaningfully engaged to do the bare minimum in order to maintain their status.
Perhaps we could just fold activity requirements into the eligibility criteria? For instance, the eligible voters for an election would need to, in addition to the other criteria, have voted in the previous election or have applied in the time since then. We could even make the renewal of eligibility explicit, with a checkbox on ballots for ârenewing your voter registrationâ or something so itâs an opt-in rather than opt-out system.
Why not also a residency requirement?
Iâm suggesting this in addition to the eligibility criteria already in the current draft, which includes requiring a WA nation in the region or in service to the SPSF or SC.
Iâm working on a rewrite of the entire eligibility section. Stay tuned.
Iâve rewritten a good portion of the act. The process has been redefined as registering to vote, but citizen is still my preferred term. Iâve also cleaned up some of the language concerning Section 2 (Eligibility).
I concur with Pronoun. I donât see a need to refer specifically to citizens, and if anything I would find the use of that term to refer only to registered voters to be detrimental.
I intend to propose a few changes to the draft, time permitting, before the end of the week.
Some changes:
- Residents who have registered to vote are defined as âvotersâ to align with the language in the Elections Act. I didnât find a need to refer to them as âvotersâ or âcitizensâ outside of the definitions.
- Accordingly, the âCitizenship Commissionâ is now referred to as just the âVoter Registration Commissionâ to match the terminology of âvoter registrationâ as already included in the previous draft.
- Re-approval votes for Voter Registration Commissioners are now set at every February and August so that counting different six-month cycles for each commissioner will not be necessary.
- The language surrounding revocation of voter registrations has been tightened a bit.